Kiel Chenier originally put this on his blog. If this was Tumblr I'd reblog it, but it's not so I'm just turning my blog over to Kiel for today. Considering this is by no means the first time Anna has been abusive to people in the RPG community or dismissive of LGBT gamers, a call to accountability is long overdue. Kiel has reported that people (other than Anna so far) have been reaching out through Tumblr to donate, so that's good:
An open-letter to Wundergeek
First, some context for those who are new to this blog, and this conversation specifically: Anna Kreider (Wundergeek) writes gomakemeasandwich.wordpress.com.
And here’s what you replied with:
Wow.
[See the article for the full comment above. Too big/long to screencap fully]
True, but not everything that impacts culture should be treated with the same severity. “Everything is political” does not mean that “Everything is the same amount of political”. Again, I agree that toxic masculinity and the dismissal/erasure/attack of LGBT people in gaming is bad and wrong and should be recognized and called out…BUT NOT IN THIS INSTANCE. NOT A MERE TWO DAYS AFTER A MASS SHOOTING OF LGBT PEOPLE! To do so would be ghoulish: a callous bit of attention grabbing that justifies itself by being topical.
I organized and hosted a Fantasy AGE livestream game, with a call to action to donate to Equality Florida and the GLBT Community Center of Central Florida. All of the players were LGBT identifying people, and we collectively raised over $300 to split between these two funds. You can watch the livestream here.
Please, show me and your followers (and patrons) that you are more than just a reactionary person who claims to be an ally but puts her own victimhood ahead of actual LGBT victims, all while profiting by using their suffering/deaths to reiterate her opinions.
I’ve been pretty shaken up since June 12th.
I’m currently visiting San Francisco, staying with my partner and enjoying one of the most out and proud cities in America as a Canadian. I’ve been out as openly bisexual for almost a year now, a feat that took me most of my adult life to finally be willing to do.
I’ve known I wasn’t straight since I was a teenager, but even as a staunch ally in my school’s GSA, and as someone who marched with out friends in Toronto’s pride parade, I still couldn’t bring myself to publicly reveal this part of me.
Since I’ve come out I’ve fallen out of contact with family members, gotten a bunch of internet hate for it, and received a lot more pushback from outside the DIY D&D community than I was expecting. But, I’d finally come out, and have been feeling more at peace with myself than I have in almost a decade.
I planned my trip to SF to coincide with SF Pride, hoping that I might be able to attend the parade. I’d been making a list of all the LGBT-friendly bars and clubs in the Bay Area, hoping we might be able to check them out.
Now I’m not sure I want to. I’m a little more wary, and a little more scared.
Because of the vicious murders committed at Pulse, a gay nightclub in Orlando where at least 49 people were killed in one of the worst hate-crimes in recent US history, I feel a little less safe, even in what should be considered a safe space.
That’s where my head’s been at. I’ve been shaken up by this shooting, and reminded that as much progress as the LGBT community makes in America in securing their rights as citizens, and building safe and inclusive spaces for the community, there are still other Americans who will callously take those things away by murdering us.
So when you (Wundergeek) made a post to your blog about your stance on gaming culture and propped up the murder of 49 people (most of them LGBT-identifying) to justify that stance, and posted it LESS THAN TWO DAYS AFTER THE SHOOTING TOOK PLACE, I was bothered by it.
So I left a comment. Nothing mean, nothing angry, nothing hateful:
And here’s what you replied with:
Wow.
First off, I’m going to call your article what it is: opportunistic. While many of us were in grief, you took the tragedy and death of others and decided that now would be a good time to remind people that you think “toxic masculinity in games culture is related for this!”
Now, I don’t necessarily disagree with that. Or, rather, I agree that toxic masculinity is a problem in many of our lives, for both women and men. I agree that it (possibly) influenced the shooter and his perception of the world, such that he would go to the lengths of killing a nightclub full of LGBT people.“It’s not a game when the games we play reinforce the stereotypes that caused the Orlando shooter to think it was okay to end the lives of people who don’t meet his narrow definitions of acceptable performance of gender and sexuality.It’s not a game when the games we play reinforce the culture that teaches men that their masculinity has to fit the narrowest confines possible, that they have to mutilate themselves emotionally in order to be acceptably masculine, that teaches them that empathy is a weakness not a strength.”
This bothers me because the way your article and your follow up comment is worded makes it sound like you are drawing from your own experiences as a victim (a straight cis victim) to this, and not the experiences of LGBT victims of this same kind of hate and violence.
And I’m sorry, but being “queer-adjacent” does not mean that you speak for us. Certainly not a few days after this horrifying event. I get that you care, and I understand and value you standing out as an LGBT ally to the community, but this article is gauche, and the lengths which you go to to claim victimhood in light of this tragedy are equally gauche.
I don’t doubt that you’ve experienced these things. And I’m sorry, that’s awful, and no one should have to go through that. But right here you, as a self-identified straight/cis person, are trying to claim that you’ve experienced more homophobia than actual members of the LGBT community.“But until you experience anywhere near the levels of homophobia, racism, ableism, and misogyny that get thrown at me on a REGULAR basis, that have resulted in my developing anxiety and a fear a large gatherings of gamers, don’t you DARE presume to get self-righteous and accuse me of “trivializing” experiences of hatred.”
Even if true, claiming to be more affected by homophobia than me, a besexual person, makes you sound awful, and is a shitty thing to bring up as a self-expressed ally.
So you’re conscious of not wanting to take up space for queer and LGBT voices…but you did it anyway? No guest blog, no reaching out to the LGBT community online (You could have reached out to Tabletop Gaymer, a community I’m a part of, and you would have gotten a bunch of responses), no resharing or boosting of LGBT voices…just your own.“And as someone who feels queer-adjacent without actually owning the identity of being queer (at least at present – since I very much present as cishet and 100% benefit from that privilege), I’m conscious of not wanting to take up space that should be claimed by queer voices speaking out on their own behalf”
That’s not cool.
And I’m not the only person to point that out to you. There are comments in that article (Those that you haven’t deleted) from LGBT-identifying people who take umbrage with it, or disagree, or are trying to raise their concerns. And in response to each one you’ve flat out disagreed or dismissed them.
[See the article for the full comment above. Too big/long to screencap fully]
Again, putting your own abuse and victimhood as a straight/cis person ahead of these LGBT voices.
I’m not saying you haven’t suffered or that your abuse is invalid or shouldn’t be considered…but in light of the shooting in Orlando, a hate crime directed specifically at LGBT people, you going out of your way to say that you’re a victim of homophobia too is insulting. It feels like it’s a grab for attention.
True, but not everything that impacts culture should be treated with the same severity. “Everything is political” does not mean that “Everything is the same amount of political”. Again, I agree that toxic masculinity and the dismissal/erasure/attack of LGBT people in gaming is bad and wrong and should be recognized and called out…BUT NOT IN THIS INSTANCE. NOT A MERE TWO DAYS AFTER A MASS SHOOTING OF LGBT PEOPLE! To do so would be ghoulish: a callous bit of attention grabbing that justifies itself by being topical.
Here’s the really important bit: The call to action. If you, Anna Kreider, ignore everything up to this point, fine. I seriously doubt I can change your mind on this point, but I wanted to try. PLEASE read what’s below.
Your blog is funded by your Patreon. According to your Patreon page you make over $200 USD for each blog post.
Does this include the post in question where you prop of the LGBT victims of a hate crime to talk about homophobia/sexism in “games”?
If so, that really bothers me. At best, I feel like you are encouraging the trend of straight/cis allies speaking on LGBT people’s behalf when we have our own voices and opinions. At worst, you are indirectly profiting off of the deaths and suffering of members of the LGBT community. If you did not earn money from this article and posted it for free, then good on you. Still, I’m asking if you would be willing to do the following:
Not long after the news of the shooting broke, people from all over the state of Florida have put together a variety of aid and relief funds for victims and family members of victims of the shooting.
I’m running an LGBTAIQ specific adventure for Tabletop Gaymer at GenCon this year. I decided that the best way I could help in the wake of this shooting was to raise money for the relief funds.
I organized and hosted a Fantasy AGE livestream game, with a call to action to donate to Equality Florida and the GLBT Community Center of Central Florida. All of the players were LGBT identifying people, and we collectively raised over $300 to split between these two funds. You can watch the livestream here.
So here is my ultimatum to you: If you earned over $200 USD for that article, please donate that amount to one or both of the linked funds below. If, for whatever reason, you cannot do that, at least match my own personal donation of $50.
Please, show me and your followers (and patrons) that you are more than just a reactionary person who claims to be an ally but puts her own victimhood ahead of actual LGBT victims, all while profiting by using their suffering/deaths to reiterate her opinions.
Donate to one or both of these funds, please.
-Kiel Chenier
12 comments:
Her blog was insensitive. I don't think wundergeek should be a worthy ally for anybody. Having said that, I wish she would stop editing her blog posts, comments and other comments after the fact. I read her blog, and disagree with alot and agree with some of her points. But I never comment because I don't want my clmment removed and a snarky jpeg with mansplaining written on it, like she likes to do rather than engaging with her critics. Sorry but I think will ignore your post like she does all opinions other than hers.
Efie--
While I appreciate the sentiment, the policy here is that in order to have real discussions in the comments on this blog, you need to answer questions when asked.
So, go back to your unanswered question or questions:
http://dndwithpornstars.blogspot.com/2016/04/lovecraft-nerds-and-uses-of-ick.html
...and answer.
And.. I did so, now I'm not fond of GoFundMe. Is there a way to donate more directly?
@sword and larceny
Comment deleted since the shooter's motives are not the point here.
The point is Anna's treatment of LGBT people who try to engage her.
If you want to discuss the Orlando shooter's motives there's a lot of boring places on the internet you can do that.
The thing to do would be to ask Kiel or the fund
Do we know if wundergeek ever responded?
Would you consider creating a second blog or partition for this stuff like Dan Carlin does with Hardcore History / Common Sense? One can funnel into his History stuff if you don't want the polysci/political stuff in Common Sense and vice versa. Both are strengthened by the separation and he is able to cater to his specific audiences.
Absolutely not under any circumstances.
The RPG audience is exactly the audience that has the ability to limit the damage that someone like Anna does. They are the target of her abuse.
And the only downside to publishing notices of shitty behavior here is someone has to go "Oh, I don't want to read this" and wait for the next one.
Reading is free, not reading is free.
it may not matter much but i prefer you undiluted. your a a good dude.
there are times when the best use this platform can be put to is to amplify voices that aren't mine, especially marginalized people
It's not like it's getting in the way of me posting my own stuff
No im totally for it. Years ago i felt like op but since then ive grown more compassionate. What im saying is change nothing because whats the point of having your own rebel transmission if you can't help people that you care about, dig?
Wundergeek in her latest post now says that she is not cisgender, has never been cisgender. This I think is her response to seemingly appropriating the victimhood of LGBt people.
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