When you say DC I have to wonder what era we're talking here-- oh god, I'm over analyzing it-- but the High Fantasy of New DnD seems more Silver Age-- "Oh we just popped in to the Earth-2, I mean the Feywild..."-- whereas Old DnD's gritiness seems more in line with what I expect from Marvel.
DC is a great big mess of ideas and tones and genres strung together by the thinnest threads of frayed continuity. It has much more in common with a sandbox full of toys than a world, so in that sense it reminds me of Zak's D&D.
Marvel? It's more accessible, and consequently often much more boring.
I would have said that DC is equivalent to all those grunky arcane miniature and naval wargames which bequeathed their mechanics to D&D, early D&D is Marvel (they swiped half the art from Doctor Strange after all), and D&D3 is Image, and D&D4 is Tokyopop.
Tomb of the Blind and Deaf Dead
-
So the cat is out of the bag thanks to Tobias Schulte-Krumpen, who posted
the above image to the Lamentations of the Flame Princess facebook group. I
...
James Raggi introduces the Nebulith
-
James describes it as "Zak's best work". Also as something that you, the
audience, should buy as soon as possible.
And here's why.
RIP OFF YOUR SKIN AND KILL YOUR GOD.
-
Out of game. Kind of.
I don't care about Fun. I'm not competing in the Funlympics because it's a
participation trophy and if your table isn't having Fun
...
I'm Zak, I live in Los Angeles. Most of the people I know here are women I know from being a porn "actor"--so they're porn stars and strippers. So that's who I play Dungeons & Dragons with.
25 comments:
Wow... Somehow, and weird enough, I already knew it :o
I'd go with that.
What does that mean?
This.... this is going to take some time to absorb...
*goes and sits in the corner*
Hm. You are right. I've always liked Marvel and New D&D more.
That's actually a rather good analogy.
D&D Basic/Expert = Superfriends
When you say DC I have to wonder what era we're talking here-- oh god, I'm over analyzing it-- but the High Fantasy of New DnD seems more Silver Age-- "Oh we just popped in to the Earth-2, I mean the Feywild..."-- whereas Old DnD's gritiness seems more in line with what I expect from Marvel.
Regardless, my campaign is Kirby.
I prefer Old D&D and Marvel. I must be confused.
@marjasall
I expected about 300 comment saying roughly that
DC is a great big mess of ideas and tones and genres strung together by the thinnest threads of frayed continuity. It has much more in common with a sandbox full of toys than a world, so in that sense it reminds me of Zak's D&D.
Marvel? It's more accessible, and consequently often much more boring.
Old D&D is killing off all it's non-white legacy characters, too?
I kid. I get what you mean here.
I'm gonna have to go with:
Old D&D = pre-CCA DC
AD&D 2nd Edition = CCA Marvel
New D&D = post-CCA Marvel
Looking at it this way, I suddenly have a framework for understanding the insidious appeal D&D 4e has for me.
Thanks, Zak.
Thak.
#2 of 300. No reason we can't be civil.
Original D&D = EC
Wait...what's Image equivalent to? Storyteller? 3E? 4E?
Oooh and Dark Horse! Who's Dark Horse?
@Tom
Image is obviously some kind of fantasy heartbreaker.
Dark Horse is a grab bag of vastly varying levels of quality kept afloat by licensed properties, so: Palladium? Mayfair? Chaosium?
OD&D = Jack Kirby and Joe Simon
AD&D = Barry Windsor-Smith run on Conan
AD&D 2nd ed. = Valiant Comics
3.x D&D = Image Comics
4e D&D = Brand New Day Spidey
OD&D = Archie Comics
I haven't kept up on comics for awhile... the only stuff I collect is Knights of the Dinner Table and Groo the Wanderer.
So where does Rolemaster fall into it?
I would have said that DC is equivalent to all those grunky arcane miniature and naval wargames which bequeathed their mechanics to D&D, early D&D is Marvel (they swiped half the art from Doctor Strange after all), and D&D3 is Image, and D&D4 is Tokyopop.
OD&D I can see being DC , new D&D (being 1e and beyond) could be Marvel.
DC is ridiculous in their what we would call "unbalanced" while 1e and 2e trying to keep things in the same scale.
A 0e D&D party could be the superfriends with batman and superman togethor..
College Humour had a rather apt problem with that:
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1884973
Part 2:
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1906726
Now for the really hard part.
Given that your home game is part 1E (DC)/ and part 3.5E (Marvel), what comic/publisher best expresses it?
Or would it be the...interesting Marvel/DC crossover battle comics from a while back?
@kelvingreen: That's a good point, that the OD&D LBBs literally stole Marvel art for their graphic sensibility.
#3. Old D&D and Marvel. 4-eva
I would go more
OD&D = Batman
4E = Xmen
but maybe that's just my opinion. My OD&D characters are just people with training, equipment, and some support staff.
4E is all about powers and abilities and larger than life epic heroes with elaborate pre-game story lines.
Post a Comment