miércoles, 7 de abril de 2021

Now It Can Be Told--If Any of You Care

So, two of the most aggressive harassers online--people responsible for more hate directed against me and the other D&DW/PS crew since 2011 than almost everyone else put together--got cancelled yesterday: Olivia Hill and her spouse, Filamena Young. 


Olivia's girlfriend claimed that she was abusive, lied all the time, and played victim constantly to escape responsibility for doing fucked up things.

  • If Olivia's girlfriend is telling the truth: this is exactly what I have said for years about them except when I said it I had proof. Olivia is an abuser and Filamena is, too.
  • If Olivia's girlfriend is lying: it means Olivia and Filamena want a benefit-of-the-doubt in this situation after demanding it not be extended to others. Which means they are abusers.

Anyway that means an even fifteen of the folks who were involved in the smear campaign against me have themselves been outed as abusive. I have a question for readers, right after the list...

1. Olivia Hill (former Vampire et al Onyx Path designer--girlfriend says she lied all the time, is abusive, and plays victim when she's caught, which is exactly what I've always said Olivia does)

2. Filamena Young (former Vampire et al Onyx Path designer--enabled Olivia's abuse)

3. Brandon Dixon (Swordsfall, called out on twitter as a creep by a fan)

4. Adam Koebel (Dungeon World/ Streamer, caught on tape being creepy)

5. PH Lee (Bliss Stage, Hot Guys Making Out, storygamer, cancelled for their edgy games--after making fake allegations about rape)

6. Ben Chong (various "games about relationships, storygamer--admitted to being a sexual abuser)

7. Sean Patrick Fannon (Savage Rifts--admitted to being a sexual harasser)

8. BlackHatMatt (RPGnet moderator--accused of rape)

9. Tyler Carpenter (Battletech, storygamer--admitted to sexual harassment)

10. The folks at Green Ronin (who either committed sexual misconduct or handled it poorly in the case of C.A. Suleiman)

11. Shoe Skogen (my ex's friend, outed as an alleged abuser after being made an OSR discord mod as a reward for harassing me)

12. Elizabeth Sampat (storygamer, ex-girlfriend and enabler of Gamergate-related sucide Alec Holowka)

13. Jared Cassady aka AuraTwilight aka Paimon Prowler (ran the OSR Discord, outed as an alleged abuser by fellow greaser furry hypnotism enthusiasts I am not making this up I swear)

14.  Oliver Darkshire (DMsguild author--pissed of fellow members of LGBTQIA+ community by publishing a D&D book about queer villains)

15. Luke Crane (Burning Wheel, Head of Community at Kickstarter, stepped down for helping Adam Koebel even after he got cancelled)


Olivia and Filamena finally being exposed for what they really are makes it safe(r) for me to tell a part of the RPG story that nobody really knows yet.

However, there's another problem and that's: it's possible nobody fucking cares. I got cancelled because people believed things without evidence from "people they trusted"--even when the "people they trusted" turn out to be liars and abusers, nobody seems to connect the dots.

So, I will only tell this story if there is unusual and atypical evidence that some of you out there actually care.

If I get 100 comments from a 100 distinct accounts (none of them banned) on this post, I will tell the whole story of what happened with Vampire 5e--why it turned out how it did, why it was treated by Paradox the way it was almost as soon as it came out, why the launch didn't come out as planned, what went on behind the scenes with me, Kenneth Hite, Martin Ericsson and everyone else and how many online jerks were actually involved. I have never told anyone this and only the people who worked on it know the whole truth. And I have the receipts.

Vote if you care.
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110 comentarios:

RPG Chindit dijo...

I care enough to vote.

Kyle T dijo...

It's cool, I get it. Fingers crossed.

Picador dijo...

Don't be such a tease. Of course we want to hear the details.

Becami Cusack dijo...

Curious as to the causes of all this, and am interested in particular in this case, because it seems bad things get directed at you when you are consulting in particular.
It seems that people get especially angry/torqued when you consult because they have no idea what that actually means, and based on comments you have made, you had impact on Vampire that was fairly substantial but have not said much about what was your contributions.
You also talked about the art director using photographs and Kenneth Hite having to read all the previous Vampire material, and I am curious as to what you saw/did when it came to working on the book, because those other two cases are interesting, and yours must be too.

Beardy Pete dijo...

I'm in to hear about it

heyjames4 dijo...

Vote yes

DoomOnYou dijo...

Let it flow..

Yomikoma dijo...

I would like to hear this, yes.

Lomm Cuz dijo...

Another curious one, here

Savage Wombat dijo...

100 seems like a high bar, but I'm curious too.

Surcus dijo...

Sure

remial dijo...

you bet

Anónimo dijo...

I want to hear it.

David Parkinson dijo...

Story! Yes, I would like to hear

Em from Yuggoth dijo...

i really really want to hear the details

Doc Grognard dijo...

Strangely enough, count me as interested

carlr dijo...

Yup.

Jason McCulley dijo...

Morbidly curious. Count me as interested.

maasenstodt dijo...

I'm interested.

Ogawa dijo...

I'm definitely interested.

Robert Massi dijo...

I am curious. I am concerned about the evidence double standard in the community.

BastardTweed dijo...

Yes, please. Your side of this story is important to hear.

Steven A. Torres-Roman dijo...

I would absolutely positively like to know more about that situation.

Christopher dijo...

I'd like to hear it.

Adamantyr dijo...

I also vote yes, I would like to hear this. And 100 is not too much to ask to speak up for it.

Zak-Chad Elite dijo...

Thanks for updating your list to be more informative!

"Yes"

Zak-Chad Elite dijo...

Having read that post and some of the tweets surrounding it, everyone involved in that drama is a nightmare person, holy fuck.

A Wandering Fabulist dijo...

I've never seen a single shred of proof and I believe you to be factually innocent of everything that you've been accused of. Some very bad people have run amok in the industry for too long and have used you as a scapegoat for their bad behavior.

I, for one, would love to hear what you have to say.

Ruxandra V dijo...

Voting yes

Simon Tsevelev dijo...

Oh-oh! Now I remember who that person is. The "I hate Star Wars so much-Star Wars is bad and enabling right-wingers' power fantasies-I never ever watched Star Wars because it is so bad and you should hate it like I do".
Now that whole personal relationship story really freaks me out, but that's not important here...
I would like the unknown story about those people and what they had done to be published.

jose masaga dijo...

Yes, please.

Tom dijo...

+1

VicVerde dijo...

I'm interested.

SmokeFinger dijo...

Spill that tea!

Diinqan dijo...

Give us that sweet sweet Vampire drama

trent_b dijo...

vote.

Murray dijo...

Go on then

aigarso dijo...

Do tell.

Ausra dijo...

Let's go to 100!

Jan dijo...

I'm interested.

CJGeringer dijo...

Do go on please, I would love to hear it.

Rodrigo Garcia Carmona dijo...

Yes, please.

Nick dijo...

Vote.

Sanic dijo...

Of course I would like to hear your account. It might take a while to get enough posters but I do believe there are enough who still follow and want to hear the truth from someone who was there.

Jeff Rients dijo...

I vote yes.

Wefferson dijo...

I vote yes.

Nessa dijo...

I vote yes

Alex J. dijo...

Vote.

Jeff Bernstein dijo...

I vote, "Yes, I care."

Mattheus Jansen dijo...

I vote yes

Lancaban dijo...

I vote yes
I'd love to hear it.

Synderryn dijo...

I vote yes. I admit, I am curious about the controversy behind V5 - I was aware that there was some, but was never entirely sure what it was.

Pubby88 dijo...

I vote yes.

Peter Rolf dijo...

I've come a cross Olivia Hill's work and name in a number of World of Darkness projects over the years, but her work never really stood out to me (with the exception of Dark Ages Vampire 20th Anniversary edition, which as a mess). I never engaged with the rpg.net, G+ or Twitter side of the rpg industry. It wasn't until the debacle that was the launch of Vampire 5th edition that the frankly outrageous conduct of Hill, Filamena Young, Holden Shearer and whatever that dog with dice (or whatever that blog account was called) et al caught my attention, and pretty much soured me on the roleplaying "community."

I would like to hear your side of the story, Zak, and if there are receipts I'd like to see them. I know Hill certainly never posted any, only making vague allegations about how painful it would be to relive that trauma, or similar. I wouldn't mind seeing accounts settled.

Piekarnik dijo...

Also vote yes. But why 100 votes?

The Greatest Googly Moogly dijo...

I am in favor of you spilling the tea on Olivia Hill.

Billy Bob Barker dijo...

Please lets hear it

Tomás dijo...

I'm curious because the result, 5e, well...

David dijo...

I'll vote yes.

Dee Arr Cee dijo...

Well Zak, I vote yes. I don't know you, but I heard "Olivia's" histrionic rantings about you for years, never believing that obvious bullshit. I would love to hear your side of the story.

And for the record, yes, you were right to criticize "Olivia" for hating on Star Wars without having actually viewed a single movie. Really ethical media criticism there, "Olivia."

FloatyBoats dijo...

I wish I didn't care. I really, really wish I didn't care.
I have become more and more aware lately of the extent to which RPGs (whether you define it as 'industry', 'hobby', or 'community') have been a toxic whirlpool for what feels like the last two decades, if not longer. I wish I could just stop caring and walk away.
But I can't. Not yet. So I vote yes. The stories need to be out there, and need to be told. I don't know if it will keep the same mistakes from happening again, but too much of the story of rpgs has been hidden away, controlled by a handful of people happy to lie in order to make themselves look good.
We need the goddamn receipts.

John_courage dijo...

I am highly curious about what you have to say

laricg99 dijo...

I'd like to hear about what happened.

Pirata Negro dijo...

Vote yes, wanna know

Rabble dijo...

I vote Yes. I am curious to know about the details of Vampire 5e.

Romain Z dijo...

I vote yes ! I’d like to hear about it as well.

Jose Kharlos dijo...

Go for it!

Emjay dijo...

I never usually comment on your blog but I'm really interested.

Strovenovus dijo...

First time commenter. I appreciate your work and your intransigence when it comes to bullies and panic mongers. I care, and vote YES.

shanepatrickward dijo...

88th comment. Yes.

Judge Joe Kilmartin dijo...

Extremely long-time reader, here.

I definitely want to hear this story.

Ironsides2017 dijo...

I would like to hear the whole story.
Fīat jūstitia ruat cælum.
“Let justice be done though the heavens fall."

Joss Sticks on Jupiter dijo...

As a gamer of over 40 years, my opinion is that this new woke puritanism has done far more damage to the hobby than the satanic panic ever did in the 80's. Such that I derive great delight in the excessive detailing of sjw's falling on their own swords. Lay it on us, Brother Zak.

Rhuan Assis dijo...

Yes, please

Davi dijo...

Yes please

Dominick Souza dijo...

Yessir

Farmer #1 dijo...

It's time for a Zak comeback. Long past time.

SutoMoraJudoThingy dijo...

I gotta. Lemme know!

Tibbs1891 dijo...

I still care.

Sean dijo...

Another 1

Gem dijo...

Yeah

Vas dijo...

Yes. Hill and Young have years of bad action to account for.

KattyKitt dijo...

I am SO here for this.

TeethIssues dijo...

I would love to know the specifics of how one of my favorite settings went down in flames.

Sign me up.

Claire dijo...

I'd give my right eye to know the details, I've spent months trying to put the pieces together

Sangris the Serpent dijo...

I'm here for the dirt on Paradox. Give it up.

Nicholas Erscoque dijo...

Yes please. Speak truth to power.

Leandr dijo...

Make sure to post screenshots too lol

mythologyprof dijo...

I'm in for the story

Zak Sabbath dijo...

We will need one more vote.

I Cleaned up the comments by erasing non-vote comments to make it easier to count, consolidating my previous comments:

@anons and unknowns

Non anonymous comments allowed, use a persistent identity.

@J Baker

You made an accusation about Olivia and were asked for proof then didn't respond or provide it--you're banned until you address that problem.

@Matrox Lusch

voted and left this link to something shitty and dishonest Olivia did back in the day http://lotfp.blogspot.com/2017/02/david-hill-is-liar.html

@CaptainIntegrity

Deleted. You made a first-strike personal attack, that makes you a harasser and so you're now banned. If you believe this was an error, leave a comment saying why and giving proof, if you wish to comment again otherwise, publicly apologize and take steps to undo the harm you did.


Amogus posted the lyrics to Only You but I deleted them just because I want to keep the tally clean. the version by the Flying Pickets is the best. Especially at the end of Fallen Angels.
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Since this comment includes a note of Matrox's vote (otherwise erased), the vote tally now matches the comment tally.

The Vicar dijo...

You need 100 comments, and I get to be the 100th?

Hell yes. I'm down for hearing more about it.

Zakharov Sawyer dijo...

It's like watching a house of cards fall apart.

I care. I vote to hear your story!

Simon Tsevelev dijo...

Woo hoo!

Scott_M dijo...

I definitely want to hear your side of the story.

CalebP dijo...

I just stumbled onto this blog and only have a very vague idea about the Vampire 5e drama (I saw a Reddit post that referenced it and was kind of surprised that Kenneth Hite was involved in drama, but never looked too deep into it). I would be very interested in reading your story.

amogus dijo...

you frighten me, zak

Zak Sabbath dijo...

@amogus

Say why.

Lazer dijo...

I'll bite, I want to hear it!

angryyouth dijo...

interested in the story

Skyrock dijo...

I vote yes. This gotta be good.

Zak Sabbath dijo...

Ok, gonna get all the material together. Right now I plan to put it up May 1st.

amogus dijo...

Yazoo cover is way better than the pickets version

Fallen Angels was pretty good tho. Wong Kar Wai is a gosh darn master.

Nate dijo...

I care a great deal about this. I was really upset regarding this whole hubbub, but have only my own very limited knowledge of what happened and that's not really sufficient.

Jason W. dijo...

I vote yes and would note that it matters because people need to know so that they can protect themselves from behavior like this. It is very tough for the victim to come out but it can actually save lives. I say this as a therapist with experience of other therapists abusing their clients.

Whether or not you do it, know that you are supported to tell your truth!

Westly dijo...

I would very much like to hear about it.

Mordenkainendogpissbeer dijo...

Someone made a positive youtube video on you

https://youtu.be/TDFKcQXrtQk

thought you might want to know.

Hope you are doing well Zak

Fredrick J. Rourk dijo...

Someone made a positive youtube video on you

https://youtu.be/TDFKcQXrtQk

thought you might want to know.

Hope you are doing well Zak

Zak Sabbath dijo...

@MDPB
@Rourk

I'm doing terrible of course, but I appreciate the link

Zak Sabbath dijo...

@Tenkar

Your comment is erased. You've made first-strike personal attacks. You aren't allowed to post until you apologize to your victims and fix the problems you've created by doing that.

Zak Sabbath dijo...

@unknown

Sorry no anonymous comments allowed.