tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post6889736693138952822..comments2024-03-28T22:00:35.840-07:00Comments on Playing D&D With Porn Stars: Because Fuck You, That's Why.Zak Sabbathhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-69373489830652027002012-10-18T11:15:18.842-07:002012-10-18T11:15:18.842-07:00Never played D&D with porn stars, however I ha...Never played D&D with porn stars, however I have played several White Wolf games with 2 porn actresses as well as drunken games of OG, some of them are "nerds" as well ya know.Popuptoasterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07870225256309936101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-5705585214542528912012-02-25T17:38:11.995-08:002012-02-25T17:38:11.995-08:00hah! I had it the other way around - art is a term...hah! I had it the other way around - art is a term you can apply to any inexplicable, creative production to make it less interesting.richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13517340075234811323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-44086346867779835922012-02-21T04:48:05.673-08:002012-02-21T04:48:05.673-08:00Autumn Rhythm makes me happy for reasons I don'...Autumn Rhythm makes me happy for reasons I don't fully understand (in addition to reasons I do understand) which is part of the point. Lucifer makes me uncomfortable in a similar way. Both count as unqualified success. :)migellitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17106614212764056058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-23370653884144150702012-02-21T03:23:50.052-08:002012-02-21T03:23:50.052-08:00This.
Thank you, Mr. Blue.
@Zak: Man, I wasted a...This.<br /><br />Thank you, Mr. Blue.<br /><br />@Zak: Man, I wasted a year of my life on a thesis asking the question "Are RPGs art? Can they be art?"<br /><br />Well, at least I don't have to subject anyone else to my execrable attempt. Now I can just send people here to read your post and ask them to pay very close attention to Mr. Blue's comment.Doctor Checkmatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03143754884881860130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-27635508075947307622012-02-21T01:50:19.235-08:002012-02-21T01:50:19.235-08:00hmm, the "this isn't metal!" thing c...hmm, the "this isn't metal!" thing can have meaning though.<br /><br />I mean, if a band doesn't care if it's metal or not, and it isn't being advertised as such, it's a ridiculous criticism. (can still be an objective fact... Mellow Candle isn't metal, for instance, no matter how good they are)<br /><br />But a band trying to be metal and doing all the moves but missing the point? Or a non-metal band being promoted and sold as a metal band? "This isn't metal!" isn't appealing to genre for support, but being angry for feeling lied to and so then exposing the supposed fraud.<br /><br />That's where all the "Slipknot isn't metal!" and "Lacuna Coil isn't metal!" comes from, I think.<br /><br />(and where "4th Edition isn't real D&D!" comes from, for that matter...)JimLotFPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02992397707040836366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-15841626296188913802012-02-21T01:40:38.508-08:002012-02-21T01:40:38.508-08:00"Whether or not RPGs are art, these people ar..."Whether or not RPGs are art, these people are making a dumb mistake that, being in the art business, I get to see people make every day: they make the criticism before they make the thing. Which is a little like deciding what's good about a cake you've invented before even baking it."<br /><br />I had to stop and think about this one for a while. I think I get it, and I've definitely made this mistake more than once in RPGs and other venues. Thank you for pointing it out.<br /><br />I have struggled with many metal musicians and fans in my time when they say X band "isn't metal," and I think this is similar. They can't rest on saying they don't like X but have to appeal to genre for support - as if that were any authority at all. It drives me bananas.HDAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13506175636615989219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-87287243397059610032012-02-20T20:17:53.375-08:002012-02-20T20:17:53.375-08:00David Bowie and Barbarella...as if there were a di...David Bowie and Barbarella...as if there were a difference.<br /><br />Is the Girls And Octopuses available in a large-format print? The "enormous" version isn't really all THAT enormous.Adam Thorntonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06368676086759298705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-43796471950167815672012-02-20T20:13:33.369-08:002012-02-20T20:13:33.369-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Adam Thorntonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06368676086759298705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-177759707947699142012-02-20T19:35:44.645-08:002012-02-20T19:35:44.645-08:00Yeah, figuring out whether RPGs are art is stupid....Yeah, figuring out whether RPGs are art is stupid. The "art-ness" of something is a manner of the mode of interpretation and analysis you engage in, not something in the thing itself. I think that talking about RPGs as art tends to even obscure aesthetic interpretations of games because people have to look at the public elements of it - the rulebooks and their layout and how well the rules work - and push aside the central focus of the whole thing, the experience of playing the session or campaign. <br /><br />Or else they have to codify and regulate that experience using the public stuff like the rulebooks and authorial statements of intent and all that so that it can as closely conform to that material as possible.<br /><br />Good choice on the Klimt, btw.John Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17318244888477546773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-77356680727380595922012-02-20T18:35:24.030-08:002012-02-20T18:35:24.030-08:00maybe I need to develop the Klimtic Region for my ...maybe I need to develop the Klimtic Region for my settingColehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09873430636366896071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-58589200935228069132012-02-20T17:33:40.053-08:002012-02-20T17:33:40.053-08:00Only boring porn is art. Only boring movies are a...Only boring porn is art. Only boring movies are art. Only boring books and poems and adventures and paintings and musical scores are art.<br /><br />Everything else is what people like about art, but rarely stop to call art. They're too busy enjoying it.Mr. Bluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07027893907355004146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-11495021213642832612012-02-20T16:36:38.205-08:002012-02-20T16:36:38.205-08:00Ok I drew it http://fredericksfreisergallery.com/z...Ok I drew it http://fredericksfreisergallery.com/zaxart/octopus_girls/index.html<br /><br />you write it.<br /><br />Feel free to swipe liberally from BarbarellaZak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-28453262675292137782012-02-20T16:28:00.644-08:002012-02-20T16:28:00.644-08:00Gustav Klimt is all up in my business. I see a Gr...Gustav Klimt is all up in my business. I see a Great Need for a Gigacrawler game with 70s Glam Space Rock as the soundtrack, and Klimt as the villians' casting, set, and wardrobe designer.Adam Thorntonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06368676086759298705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-47355934582759496822012-02-20T15:30:14.344-08:002012-02-20T15:30:14.344-08:00Thank you and I agree with you about 'Lucifer&...Thank you and I agree with you about 'Lucifer'. I was also partial to 'Autumn Rhythm' especially after seeing it up close and personal. He's a personal favorite artist of mine.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06590023401954747176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-30903725727684963512012-02-20T14:56:20.975-08:002012-02-20T14:56:20.975-08:00no problem
and no, the post is not directed at an...no problem<br /><br />and no, the post is not directed at anyone in specificZak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-61633847207325895932012-02-20T14:55:11.360-08:002012-02-20T14:55:11.360-08:00"While that all makes sense to me, your use o..."While that all makes sense to me, your use of the shibboleth phrase "creative agenda" may make some of the more vain members of the audience think this post is about them--which it is not."<br /><br />Maybe I am overthinking all this (sorry, I do that sometimes), but this quote coupled with my question make me think that my previous comment came across the wrong way.I just meant to ask who was talking about RPGs as art or not and who exactly you thought were conservative and/or religious. Sorry if it looked like I was implying anything or was with a chip on my shoulder looking for an argument. English is not my first language, and sometimes stuff that I write just come off wrong :(Alex A. Biralhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10362495951914374261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-58444223413281067472012-02-20T13:19:03.923-08:002012-02-20T13:19:03.923-08:00@phil
Yes, it's a detail of "Lucifer"...@phil<br />Yes, it's a detail of "Lucifer"--the best one.Zak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-85218757727226856482012-02-20T13:17:43.064-08:002012-02-20T13:17:43.064-08:00Zak, is that a Jackson Pollock painting? If so whi...Zak, is that a Jackson Pollock painting? If so which one cause I think I recognize it but can't place the name.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06590023401954747176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-23570993365752024812012-02-20T11:53:59.036-08:002012-02-20T11:53:59.036-08:00Word.Word.arcadaynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17025690624100512801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-26303977983938605822012-02-20T11:24:55.594-08:002012-02-20T11:24:55.594-08:00An RPG design koan just began to unfold in my mind...An RPG design koan just began to unfold in my mind...<br /><br />How dare you provide me with enough rope!!! I'll need 4 levels in Use Rope just to keep from hanging myself.Zak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-9357385307021525392012-02-20T11:20:46.595-08:002012-02-20T11:20:46.595-08:00Years of D&D have taught me that having enough...Years of D&D have taught me that having enough rope is in fact very important.Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09873430636366896071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-85162964022618669512012-02-20T10:57:16.176-08:002012-02-20T10:57:16.176-08:00Not at all, it's important to give people enou...Not at all, it's important to give people enough rope.Zak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-1271877537336309292012-02-20T10:28:59.916-08:002012-02-20T10:28:59.916-08:00CONVINCED THAT GENERALIZED ATTACK WAS DIRECTED AT ...CONVINCED THAT GENERALIZED ATTACK WAS DIRECTED AT ME. FLATTERED.gdbackushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09245941451462450346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-8898248215482192392012-02-20T10:27:51.414-08:002012-02-20T10:27:51.414-08:00Sorry to shibbol contentiously, Zak. I was just go...Sorry to shibbol contentiously, Zak. I was just going on a tangent. Feel free to delete the comment.Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09873430636366896071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-58255055518199372062012-02-20T10:09:10.582-08:002012-02-20T10:09:10.582-08:00While that all makes sense to me, your use of the ...While that all makes sense to me, your use of the shibboleth phrase "creative agenda" may make some of the more vain members of the audience think this post is about them--which it is not.Zak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.com