tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post7718719252102500751..comments2024-03-19T16:24:23.777-07:00Comments on Playing D&D With Porn Stars: What Is This Game?Zak Sabbathhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-45711681357172859752013-02-03T10:27:13.110-08:002013-02-03T10:27:13.110-08:00Jesus Christ it's like you didn't even rea...Jesus Christ it's like you didn't even read it:<br /><br />I said if you change these things _you probably wanna tell your players_ first not that it isn't really D&D anymoreZak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-35843838980334123592013-02-03T10:07:09.154-08:002013-02-03T10:07:09.154-08:00Which is to say, what people think D&D is, has...Which is to say, what people think D&D is, has little to no bearing to what D&D actually is. Of course, the same goes for most systems, settings, and any concept more complicated than eating a hamburger or listening to pop-music.<br />The game, however, is defined by what the people play, not by lists.AsenRGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17548696815567190696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-37941938862078518352013-02-03T09:26:25.689-08:002013-02-03T09:26:25.689-08:00"2-The classes include (at least) fighters/wa..."2-The classes include (at least) fighters/warriors, magic-users/wizards, thieves/rogues, and clerics/priests."<br /><br />"5-There's a list of spells and, when the PCs use them, they generally do what it says in the book--especially the ones low-level players get (like magic missile)"<br /><br />"8-Physical damage is recorded as hit points"<br /><br />"9-In order to attack, you make a "to hit" roll on a d20 versus ac (including dex, str, and other bonuses)"<br /><br />So, playing OD&D is making people question whether you're playing D&D? It didn't have thieves/rogues, after all!<br />And the hit points weren't meant to be physical damage.<br />And of course, there was the original combat resolution system. The d20 was suggested as replacement to it.<br /><br />That's not a critic to your list. Yes, most people associate these things with D&D! But it's not necessarily true. The 5th number on the list is different in "Type IV" D&D as you call it, since the powers can be something other than spells.<br />So, it's not necessarily true even when you're playing a by-the-book D&D game.AsenRGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17548696815567190696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-64014760593144489162009-10-26T04:18:28.797-07:002009-10-26T04:18:28.797-07:00Excellent analysis, Zak.Excellent analysis, Zak.Jeff Rientshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17493878980535235896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-47989437011790565832009-10-25T17:11:13.609-07:002009-10-25T17:11:13.609-07:00And thanks for the invite, Norman--is Conan's ...And thanks for the invite, Norman--is Conan's still open?Zak Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05443268280676127815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-70872282134152959382009-10-25T16:55:33.327-07:002009-10-25T16:55:33.327-07:00Norman:
"It's the rule bits, can only use...Norman:<br />"It's the rule bits, can only use daggers, can't draw blood, this guy runs around in the woods and fights with two weapons. Fuck that, I want to wield two battle axes and the only tracking going on will be the trail of bloody footprints I leave behind."<br /><br />See, the way I see it, none of that stuff's int he core 10. You tell the cleric s/he can use a dagger, none of my players are gonna squeak/Zak Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05443268280676127815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-15633056339265846632009-10-25T16:52:59.671-07:002009-10-25T16:52:59.671-07:00Hmmmmm,
#2 Saddens me the most. The classes are ...Hmmmmm,<br /><br />#2 Saddens me the most. The classes are so limiting. And the "solutions"; a bazillion classes, kits, prestige whatever all suck. But not quite as hard as build point systems.<br /><br />I don't mind the concepts fighter, magic guy, holy dude and skill / expert. It's the rule bits, can only use daggers, can't draw blood, this guy runs around in the woods and fights with two weapons. Fuck that, I want to wield two battle axes and the only tracking going on will be the trail of bloody footprints I leave behind.<br /><br />Oh, and when you move to Austin, TX we'll play us some RoleMaster.Norman J. Harman Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/01319655075997712313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-3162068337404020812009-10-25T16:52:57.181-07:002009-10-25T16:52:57.181-07:00Oops I meant #6 in the comment aboveOops I meant #6 in the comment aboveAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07648499022366444265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-63582538669419016332009-10-25T16:46:29.303-07:002009-10-25T16:46:29.303-07:00Oh ok, on re-reading it I see what you were saying...Oh ok, on re-reading it I see what you were saying. I still wouldn't assume that D&D meant #5, but that could be because in my experience it normally hasn't. I would always check with the DM to see what kind of campaign setting he was running before I made a character.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07648499022366444265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-69211046709027074202009-10-25T15:57:05.974-07:002009-10-25T15:57:05.974-07:00You've misunderstood my post:
I am not descri...You've misunderstood my post:<br /><br />I am not describing "What I (or my players) like and play"<br /><br />I am describing "What my players assume the game will be like if you tell them you are going to play D&D."<br /><br />Like, i am probably going to play a asian-style d&d in november, but the guy running it didn't say "hey you wanna play d&d?" he said "hey, I think next time I play I wanna do Oriental Advnetures, whadda you think?"<br /><br />If he hadn't, I would've showed up with my level 2 wizard ready to roll and then realized we wwere in Japan or Kara Tur and would've said: "Oh, you should've told me, I would've been a ninja."<br /><br />In other words, these are the assumed defaults.Zak Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05443268280676127815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-30216099193869021842009-10-25T15:42:54.851-07:002009-10-25T15:42:54.851-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Zak Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05443268280676127815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-53167494823611727052009-10-25T15:21:08.387-07:002009-10-25T15:21:08.387-07:00"6-It's set in a version of medieval euro..."6-It's set in a version of medieval europe and the player races are derived from european folklore and include--at least--the major races in the Lord of the Rings books."<br /><br />Wow, that one blew my mind. It honestly has never even occurred to me that anyone would feel that way about the pseudo-medieval Europe default to the point that removing it would make the game no longer D&D. I have rarely ever played in such a setting, but I am quite sure I have been playing D&D for all these years! I personally feel like limiting yourself to a (I don't want to say cliche but that is close to how I feel) single setting is a severe restriction on your gaming experience. Hey, if it is what you and your players like best, that is great. But don't you ever get an itch to play a pseudo-oriental campaign, or get all hot and sandy in a desert, or just go balls out and create an entirely original setting out of whole cloth that is nothing at all like any thing we have seen on this Earth?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07648499022366444265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-24172654575858010192009-10-25T14:47:51.349-07:002009-10-25T14:47:51.349-07:00I love the Kamikaze Hughes link. I remember that g...I love the Kamikaze Hughes link. I remember that guy from rec.games.frp.dnd, .misc and .advocacy.<br /><br />Now I feel all old and sad. I miss Usenet. :(christianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09650456794111980661noreply@blogger.com