tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post33198527793842845..comments2024-03-19T16:24:23.777-07:00Comments on Playing D&D With Porn Stars: Evil Mastermind from grognards.txtZak Sabbathhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comBlogger110125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-62732322842538686752012-04-04T15:12:21.557-07:002012-04-04T15:12:21.557-07:00EttinFeb 29, 2012 08:43 PM
I am just ribbing you! ...EttinFeb 29, 2012 08:43 PM<br />I am just ribbing you! A lot of people who find themselves quoted there say something along those lines (and a lot of them get super worked up about it). That and "I wanted to get quoted, I am the puppetmaster!" cover most responses to grognards.txt quotes so after a while they all sort of blur together, I guess. As long as you don't be that guy who blogged about it for six months it is fine though!<br /><br />Were you Pseudoephedrine? I don't read (some forum) much so that is my only guess.<br /><br />Delete<br /><br />John BellFeb 29, 2012 08:53 PM<br />Got it in one! I'm running a blog these days and having a grand time. <br /><br />I don't consider myself a puppetmaster or anything crazy like that. I do find grognards.txt hilarious, so I don't mind being quoted in it.<br /><br />BTW, I left you guys a present earlier in this very thread as a show of friendship. Guess who the frequently quoted "Joey McAngrymaker" is? ;)<br /><br />Delete<br /><br />EttinFeb 29, 2012 09:25 PM<br />Well hey while you're here, I also remember quoting you a while back about some of the setting fluff you wrote and in hindsight I posted too much dumb vitriol on it, even if I wasn't much of a fan. So yeah, sorry about that.<br /><br />What got you banned from that , anyway? Reading it later I got the impression that you internet detective'd obvious-choice Guy Incognito's real name or something!<br /><br />Delete<br /><br />EttinFeb 29, 2012 09:38 PM<br />I mean Pseudoephedrine/John Bell. Last time I checked he was banned, anyway.<br /><br />Delete<br /><br />John BellFeb 29, 2012 09:41 PM<br />No worries, it was one of those threads where everyone was all heated and angry. I don't have any bad blood about it, and sorry if I was rude at the time.<br /><br />I got banned from (some forum) for telling people that if they looked up Guy Incognito's real name, they'd see how much of a hypocrite he was. I didn't actually post the name then, but he banned me for "inciting stalking". I've known his name for years - I discovered it when I did a whois.com on the site a few years ago after he said (something which is hard to disagree with but which would identify Guy)<br /><br />Anyhow, keep up the good stuff on grognards.txt and wish my best to the folks over there!<br /><br />Delete<br /><br />John BellFeb 29, 2012 09:44 PM<br />@Zak<br /><br />I got banned in January from (some forum) It's why I've been more active in the blogs since then. Sorry to blogjack!<br /><br />Delete<br /><br />EttinFeb 29, 2012 10:03 PM<br />Yeah, it looks like I kind of hijacked one of your comment threads. Sorry about that!<br /><br />(Also, John - if you ever feel like posting in SA's trad games forum, I would not mind continuing the fine SA tradition of nobody paying for their own account ever.)<br /><br />Delete<br /><br />John BellFeb 29, 2012 10:13 PM<br />Thanks for the kind offer, Ettin, but I'm going through a particularly busy time in my life right now, and I'm actually trying to reduce the amount of time I spend on forums. I'll just lurk and laugh along for now. :)<br /><br />Delete<br />ReplyZak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-21708364712564184232012-04-04T15:12:11.666-07:002012-04-04T15:12:11.666-07:00Note: I removed a subthread from this, which I am ...Note: I removed a subthread from this, which I am now reposting edited to protect the innocent/guilty. Only the names and identifying info have been changed:<br /><br /><br />I treat getting quoted on grognards.txt as a badge of pride. It's been a while since I checked, but I used to be one of the more quoted people on there, after obvious choices like Jojo McAngrymaker and Frank Trollman.<br /><br />ReplyDelete<br />Replies<br /><br />Zak SFeb 29, 2012 08:06 PM<br />Quoted would be awesome. Then you'd know what people were complaining about.<br /><br />I tend not to get quoted much.<br /><br />Delete<br /><br />EttinFeb 29, 2012 08:08 PM<br />Congratulations on still being worked up about it!<br /><br />Delete<br /><br />Zak SFeb 29, 2012 08:10 PM<br />@ettin<br /><br />Personal attacks don't fly on my blog. You've got the whole rest of the internet for that, Ettin.<br /><br />Delete<br /><br />John BellFeb 29, 2012 08:13 PM<br />You just need fewer line breaks. They look for paragraph-sized chunks to quote so that it looks good.<br /><br />Delete<br /><br />John BellFeb 29, 2012 08:27 PM<br />@Ettin> I'm not angry about it at all, mate. I enjoy reading grognards.txt and am glad to be featured in it regularly, though I notice my quotes haven't been as common now that I'm not posting on (some forum) anymore. :(<br /><br />DeleteZak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-79885000002357866722012-03-04T21:32:49.607-08:002012-03-04T21:32:49.607-08:00is it possible that maybe everybody that plays thi...is it possible that maybe everybody that plays this game is pretty weird?Dungeon Smashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17400977043480856370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-61333758704405143412012-03-03T17:15:18.176-08:002012-03-03T17:15:18.176-08:00It will just tickle me pink if the outcome of this...It will just tickle me pink if the outcome of this whole thousand-plus post holocaust* is that 3 or 4 people sit down and have an enjoyable game. OH INTERNET, YOU SO CRAZY. ;)<br /><br /> - DYA<br /><br />* "Thousand-plus" being in reference to the sum total of comments here, on flaccid purple, and SA. ("I can't believe I ate the whole thing!")DestroyYouAlothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11713840319693422886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-15847325448548614192012-03-02T21:28:02.680-08:002012-03-02T21:28:02.680-08:00@monsterTV and Ed hisch
Email me, my address is a...@monsterTV and Ed hisch<br /><br />Email me, my address is above. we'll set it up.Zak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-15574068735464769462012-03-02T21:26:41.549-08:002012-03-02T21:26:41.549-08:00Ed--
Warlord for this homebrew...hmmm....
Ok, firs...Ed--<br />Warlord for this homebrew...hmmm....<br />Ok, first level:<br />hp as cleric<br />saves & base attack as fighter<br />on a successful int check you may give another PC (including yourself) a second non-hitting non-spell action per round, like hold up a holy symbol, snatch an item, open a trap, throw caltrops, trip etc etc<br /><br />Alternately, in a round you may roll 2 dice and pick the highest for any action in a combat round.<br /><br />How's that sound?Zak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-1605252052889444182012-03-02T16:08:44.644-08:002012-03-02T16:08:44.644-08:00No idea if there's a 4e warlord equivalent in ...No idea if there's a 4e warlord equivalent in your homebrew, but I'd call dibs on a Peyton Manning inspired leader who's kinda just a thoughtless good guy who's really more into the technical sport of goblin-murder.Ed H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09046762268856492803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-30250036915278472212012-03-02T15:52:52.156-08:002012-03-02T15:52:52.156-08:00I would love this. Just say when and I'll make...I would love this. Just say when and I'll make it work.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16523043633945851003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-27177298009211224762012-03-02T15:34:53.353-08:002012-03-02T15:34:53.353-08:00I will do this. I'm pretty crazy booked these ...I will do this. I'm pretty crazy booked these days with papers and studying, but I can try to make time.Ed H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09046762268856492803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-66930014666682861102012-03-02T11:13:31.974-08:002012-03-02T11:13:31.974-08:00Thanks, I appreciate it.
And thanks for coming ove...Thanks, I appreciate it.<br />And thanks for coming over and doing this, too.Zak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-87548954161619411402012-03-02T11:11:53.130-08:002012-03-02T11:11:53.130-08:00Sounds fair to me.Sounds fair to me.Sean Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00448732332193499680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-3963985624192501982012-03-01T16:48:48.735-08:002012-03-01T16:48:48.735-08:00Ok, so far as Nate: he said the whole "douche...Ok, so far as Nate: he said the whole "douchey principal" thing before he said word one to me and assumed bad faith on my part. That starts him at negative 200 points. Period. I assume you can understand that.<br /><br />Anyway, WHOLE NEW QUESTION--<br /><br />This may be dumb, bear with me:<br /><br />I'm a guy who wrote something you bought or liked or I wrote things you thought were ok or whatever I don't know. Anyway, not a wholly evil and satanic presence in your mind I presume.<br /><br />So: <br /><br />If I do some shit that seems unreasonable to you and you think "I'll complain about it on the internet", is it ok for me to just, first, say "Hey, come ask me about it? <br /><br />I will listen and think and say:<br /> 'Hey maybe you;re right' or <br /><br />I'll go 'Ok, here;s the thing' and maybe you'll see my point, or<br /><br />I'll say something Totally Fucked Up and you can be like "Ok, that guy is nuts, I am SURE I never have to talk to him again" and then make fun of it.<br /><br />Can I humbly request that you do that? Just because, that's how we start having conversations across the lines. Which I presume is at least a little bit of an interesting idea to you because you read this page, and all we do here is talk about games.Zak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-71158342536091593922012-03-01T16:32:12.907-08:002012-03-01T16:32:12.907-08:00Well, I really didn't mean anything by it. Was...Well, I really didn't mean anything by it. Was "flip your shit" the best phrase I could have picked? Of course not, and honestly, I apologize for saying it. I have no problem with you at all, really. I disagree with you on some stuff, but that's just a minor thing. Sometimes it does seem (to me) that you overreact a bit; like before with Nate. But I do that too; like I said before there are some people who will honestly raise my blood pressure when they get posted, and I wouldn't be surprised if there's one or two people who hate my guts too.<br /><br />It's not a case of this being boring, I just don't know what else to say.Sean Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00448732332193499680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-26490461583532755312012-03-01T16:12:30.386-08:002012-03-01T16:12:30.386-08:001. I said that the word "About" was very...1. I said that the word "About" was very popular in dissatisfied-with-D&D-circles. (Maybe that was what you meant, maybe something else)<br /><br /> I think somebody could only really call that aggressive if they thought I already had some kinda issue with story gamers (by which I mean, basically, people who post a lot on the story-games forum and are into the indie games popular on that forum).<br /><br />2. This thing you said seems _way_ stronger than that:<br /><br />" as soon as someone disagrees with him or asks him to clarify something, he loses his shit."<br /><br />#1's not an example of me Losing My Shit I don;t think--that phrase is from a post which is not a response to anybody. So I think there has to be more to this.<br /><br />Now, I think maybe we have a Give A Fuck Gap here:<br /><br />Since this sentence is about me, and I happen to like talking about shit like this and wonder about how people get all internetangry at each other, I Give A Fuck about this.<br /><br />Maybe you don't. Maybe this is just like "Hey, I said it, I didn't really mean anything by it, I'm not sure I even thought it out"<br /><br />Or maybe it is and you kinda think "Yeah, he does do that"<br /><br />So you can say:<br />"Y'know, I don't care, it's not a big deal to me, I'm done, this is boring"<br /><br />and that's fine, I appreciate your time<br /><br />or you can say<br /><br />"Oh yeah, I have evidence here that every time someone disagrees with Zak he Loses His Shit and here is what I'm talking about..."<br /><br />So yeah, do what you like with that.Zak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-14631031284078302382012-03-01T15:51:48.707-08:002012-03-01T15:51:48.707-08:00Off the top of my head, the only thing I can think...Off the top of my head, the only thing I can think of was a post you made here a while back (and sorry, I don't know how to find it) where you made a comment that "story gamers insist that games have to be 'about' something".<br /><br />I had a problem with that statement, because it struck me as unnecessary line-in-the-sand-drawing. In my experience, there's really no difference between "story gamers" and "traditional gamers". It felt very...backhanded the way the point was phrased.Sean Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00448732332193499680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-62991800535022502702012-03-01T15:27:58.920-08:002012-03-01T15:27:58.920-08:00@Sean D
Ok, this thread (and post) is clearly a s...@Sean D<br /><br />Ok, this thread (and post) is clearly a sticky situation and not easy to navigate. <br /><br />Can you give me an example of something I said before this whole post and thread and what-all that you received....less than well? (Or however you'd put it)Zak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-7290802425511115752012-03-01T15:24:15.878-08:002012-03-01T15:24:15.878-08:001. Okay, fair enough. I misunderstood why you brou...1. Okay, fair enough. I misunderstood why you brought it up.<br /><br />2. At no point have you pissed me off. Really. There's really only two people who come up that actually make me angry; I'm not going to name them because this isn't the place for it and anyone who's seen me posting in grogs.txt knows who they are, and you're not one of them.<br /><br />As for an example of something you said or did...well, I'd have to say up above here where you were posting one "assumption" or question at a time and waiting for my answer. I realize it wasn't your attention, but it made me feel like I was being led into something.Sean Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00448732332193499680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-12235960189885748172012-03-01T10:53:33.281-08:002012-03-01T10:53:33.281-08:00@mikan
"shitty shitty tone" doesn't...@mikan<br /><br />"shitty shitty tone" doesn't help me change it.<br /><br />Please give me an actual direct quote of a thing I said in the Original Post on that thread that bothered you.<br /><br />Then I can, like, look at it and see what the problem is and how I could try to say that thing without enraging you.Zak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-8819617942518450542012-03-01T10:46:27.583-08:002012-03-01T10:46:27.583-08:00The real moral is that you claimed I never told yo...The real moral is that you claimed I never told you why you are insufferable<br /><br />and then deleted the comment where I told you exactly why<br /><br />So: goongrats, please come visit us again in a weekMikanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07715598332312072729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-35158215524134378782012-03-01T10:44:12.368-08:002012-03-01T10:44:12.368-08:00From over here it looks like a lack of good faith ...From over here it looks like a lack of good faith in the other party, aka the same thing underlying 95% of all internet bickering ever. It's human nature to assume people are being dishonest or self-deluding. He assumed you were being condescending, and when you talk about it he assumes it's because you took offence. You assume he's a troll. Everyone rolls their eyes and goes home.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07090296806321882601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-50970483867278432992012-03-01T10:14:09.554-08:002012-03-01T10:14:09.554-08:00Another moral:
If people make personal attacks on...Another moral:<br /><br />If people make personal attacks on you and you delete them, it makes them sad.Zak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-54312405646826885482012-03-01T10:10:53.354-08:002012-03-01T10:10:53.354-08:00GOOD IDEA!!!
Anybody from Grog.txt who wants to p...GOOD IDEA!!!<br /><br />Anybody from Grog.txt who wants to play a game on G+ comment here.Zak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-59216751237154101282012-03-01T10:09:20.184-08:002012-03-01T10:09:20.184-08:00Seriously, why don't you invite some goons to ...Seriously, why don't you invite some goons to a game?Harlohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10124944584897809826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-37173576186244000082012-03-01T09:49:07.107-08:002012-03-01T09:49:07.107-08:00I guess the moral of the story is:
Mikan hates ho...I guess the moral of the story is:<br /><br />Mikan hates how I talk to people enough to complain about it in a forum, <br /><br />but not enough to actually, like, tell me why so maybe it will stop.<br /><br />So: Recreational whining, I guess.Zak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-8915574332823068602012-03-01T09:19:13.894-08:002012-03-01T09:19:13.894-08:00@Mikan
I'm not here to complain that someone ...@Mikan<br /><br />I'm not here to complain that someone somewhere said something I didn't like. If you think that we can stop now and I'll just erase this because it's useless:<br /><br />So, basically I could re-say all the things I said to Sean D up there and ask you if you believe them one by one or just ask you to read the part of the thread where I talk to Sean and tell me which--if any--part of it you don't believe.<br /><br />_____<br />As far as calling Sean out: I couldn't think of any other way to get in touch with him.<br /><br />As far as the language I used: if I talk casually like I talk to everybody else:<br /><br />http://dndwithpornstars.blogspot.com/2012/02/hey-you-shy-guy-come-out-and-play.html<br /><br />I get called a creepy supervillain and if I talk in a measured language and go step by step I get called names too.<br /><br />I can't win on that score and you probably know that.<br /><br />If you have an ungodly number of people reading you every month (because your blog has the word "porn" in it), you're gonna inevitably piss 5% of them off.<br /><br />___<br /><br />So, if you want to talk, read the Sean D part above and let me know if all that makes sense to you or not.Zak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.com