tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post2857531351088306156..comments2024-03-28T22:00:35.840-07:00Comments on Playing D&D With Porn Stars: On Spidergoat Economics (or Weird Scarcity)Zak Sabbathhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-45274796535034365402017-01-12T01:14:26.282-08:002017-01-12T01:14:26.282-08:00Thanks for giving me a name for my favourite style...Thanks for giving me a name for my favourite style of 'getting loot'! In particular that link to Scrap Princess' sr post is something I'll definitely take up next time our crew picks up sr.Eggplantheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04149065256318251057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-39235500996592131222016-10-07T11:36:50.634-07:002016-10-07T11:36:50.634-07:00i answered the phones etc--though he did have stud...i answered the phones etc--though he did have studio assistantsZak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-35550795310651331042016-10-07T07:13:29.150-07:002016-10-07T07:13:29.150-07:00In what sense? Did you work with him in the studio...In what sense? Did you work with him in the studio? Crazy coincidence either way, fan of both Sachs and you. Rasmus Källqvisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04094769764887557424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-7252278046391519962016-09-22T13:05:33.126-07:002016-09-22T13:05:33.126-07:00I used to work for himI used to work for himZak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-14525070294386170242016-09-22T13:05:21.507-07:002016-09-22T13:05:21.507-07:00It isn't unless the flaw (or a flaw) was compe...It isn't unless the flaw (or a flaw) was compelled by forces external to the player. That's like the Apocalypse World example otherwise--you're simply enabling the player to cosmetically describe Spidergoat aesthetics, but not challenging them to deal with a problem.<br /><br />That's just writing/GMing/authorship, not problem-solving, which requires dealing with shit thrown at you by external forces.<br />Zak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-77017723829326687612016-09-22T13:04:56.977-07:002016-09-22T13:04:56.977-07:00yesyesZak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-13017557541445401012016-09-22T13:04:49.814-07:002016-09-22T13:04:49.814-07:00Yeah that sounds goofy and terribleYeah that sounds goofy and terribleZak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-67957962848324446452016-09-22T13:04:08.790-07:002016-09-22T13:04:08.790-07:00It isn't unless the flaw (or a flaw) was compe...It isn't unless the flaw (or a flaw) was compelled by forces external to the player. That's like the Apocalypse World example otherwise--you're simply enabling the player to cosmetically describe Spidergoat aesthetics, but not challenging them to deal with a problem.<br /><br />That's just writing/GMing/authorship, not problem-solving, which requires dealing with shit thrown at you by external forces.<br />Zak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-65929902784505668812016-09-22T12:27:17.496-07:002016-09-22T12:27:17.496-07:00Great pic! Thanks for introducing me to the work o...Great pic! Thanks for introducing me to the work of spidergoat maestro Tom Sachs. Parvel Shunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11797860937349949157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-83331477557603664322016-09-22T09:53:59.876-07:002016-09-22T09:53:59.876-07:00Is it Spidergoat if you design a thing with a buil...Is it Spidergoat if you design a thing with a build in flaw?<br /><br />Like if a player creates their own starship, but indicates the improved sensors make the maneuvering thrusters go wonky when they're in use.<br /><br />I like some of the effects here, but I am a design, and abstraction guy. Adam Dicksteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04840144928096089178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-66834982198777123262016-09-22T09:00:24.802-07:002016-09-22T09:00:24.802-07:00Paranoia is definitely spidergoat economics... eve...Paranoia is definitely spidergoat economics... ever been to R&D? And technically you don't own that jump suit or laser pistol...Adamantyrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14962009901412877763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-52435802988531455722016-09-22T08:53:03.435-07:002016-09-22T08:53:03.435-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Zenlitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03802052848584322758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-19783410606121437602016-09-22T08:51:22.245-07:002016-09-22T08:51:22.245-07:00Also, Stuperpowers! there was an old spidergoat su...Also, Stuperpowers! there was an old spidergoat supers game which is basically like the movie Mystery Men or the group called Section 8 in the comic series Hitman.Zenlitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03802052848584322758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-59982427977935060472016-09-22T08:48:31.230-07:002016-09-22T08:48:31.230-07:00ICONS does a spidergoat supers system where you ro...ICONS does a spidergoat supers system where you roll up your powers and origin then have to explain your super science character who has launchable cactus spike skin and can make force bubbles.Zenlitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03802052848584322758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-78739896922863484622016-09-22T06:22:08.347-07:002016-09-22T06:22:08.347-07:00Is it Spidergoat if you design a thing with a buil...Is it Spidergoat if you design a thing with a build in flaw?<br /><br />Like if a player creates their own starship, but indicates the improved sensors make the maneuvering thrusters go wonky when they're in use.<br /><br />I like some of the effects here, but I am a design, and abstraction guy. Adam Dicksteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04840144928096089178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-43356096285579556432016-09-22T06:19:00.283-07:002016-09-22T06:19:00.283-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Adam Dicksteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04840144928096089178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-31256861754678557032016-09-22T02:24:23.898-07:002016-09-22T02:24:23.898-07:00This is a really good way of describing something ...This is a really good way of describing something that's actually really important. <br /><br />Last week I started a new game with a bunch of players who were new to D&D, so I started off at the most basic level possible, with the old 'You're all thrown into the dungeon with nothing but some torches and a knife' routine. To my absolute delight they immediately started scavenging equipment out of their environment: improvising shields out of the heads of giant mushrooms, pulling the spear out of the spear trap that just killed their buddy and keeping it as a weapon, scavenging goblin bows even though the strings snap when you pull on them too hard, and so on. It really pushes players to engage with the environment *as an environment*, rather than just as a kind of green-screen backdrop for their 'heroic' exploits...Joseph Manolahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05387275537008858939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-82613326836529993402016-09-21T19:21:09.731-07:002016-09-21T19:21:09.731-07:00You could make an argument that Mayfair's Unde...You could make an argument that Mayfair's Underground, wherein every superpower comes with the risk of a mental disorder, could serve as an example of a superhero RPG with spidergoat economics.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12157468423705615458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-65056344771773872092016-09-21T17:40:21.671-07:002016-09-21T17:40:21.671-07:00Sure there are ways to do it
(also Days of Future ...Sure there are ways to do it<br />(also Days of Future Past and stuff has Spidergoat elements) but the platonic form of the superhero genre pulls in another direction.<br /><br />I don't want to say "always spidergoat all the time" is the only way to goZak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-40727184383864559432016-09-21T17:29:57.491-07:002016-09-21T17:29:57.491-07:00I wonder if the Spidergoat version of superheroes ...I wonder if the Spidergoat version of superheroes is something along the lines of GRR Martin's Wild Cards. Your right that a collage of odd things might not work for a character, but maybe some sort of random power/mutation generator would work for NPCs in that setting.jmk jrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10131579637681303705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-34399266272088422912016-09-21T16:34:42.195-07:002016-09-21T16:34:42.195-07:00Some players or DMs may not even get the concept o...Some players or DMs may not even get the concept of imagining something beyond the equipment list. I was playing in a D&D 5 adventure league game with I DM I didn't know. I wanted my character to soak a blanket in oil, throw it on something, and set it on fire. He seemed flabbergasted that I would try anything but step up and swing a sword.<br />Maybe someone will read this post and it will expand their imagination.Timothy Paul Schaeferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12279725399542404987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-9506143731140546322016-09-21T15:54:27.352-07:002016-09-21T15:54:27.352-07:00:):)Zak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638993969706011706.post-811751398420198332016-09-21T13:41:24.707-07:002016-09-21T13:41:24.707-07:00Zak, you are my damn hero, to the point that I thi...Zak, you are my damn hero, to the point that I think I have a nerd man crush on you. You are creative and I get a dozen ideas every time you post. Holy crap, stay weird vampiric butterfly!SavageCheerleaderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00832023627102128364noreply@blogger.com